Linux Newsletter:  Issue #8                        Date: 07/09/97   

1. From the Editor: Mars Landing, Linux & NASA
2. Why Linux?
   -Lockups - Should you tolerate them?  
3. Linux Mall New Products & Specials
   -"No BS Guide to Linux", "Linux on a Disk", "New User's Fast 
     Start Bundle", "Cliq Office Applications", "FlagShip Personal 
     Educational Version", "Eiffel Personal version", "BRU 2000 
     Backup & Restore Software"
4. Hot News  
    4.1 Linux goes up on its second Space Shuttle trip
    4.2 FREE LINUX CDs, Caldera OpenLinux, Linux Pro by WGS & Red Hat Linux
    4.3 Version 4.0 of Midnight Commander is available.
    4.4 Linux Mall Summer '97 Catalog Goes to Press
    4.5 Develop once on Linux - Deploy for both Linux AND Microsoft! 
    4.6 Microsoft Recognizes Linux as Reference Platform! 
5. Useful tips
    5.1 Linux User Groups:  How do I start one in my area?
    5.2 The Linux Gazette, making Linux More fun
6. Linux Event Calendar
    6.1 Comdex/Fall, November 17-21, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
7. User Success Stories
    7.1 Major Hospital runs entirely on Linux
    7.2 Linux and FlagShip used to create interactive databased Web Site
8. Reader Feedback
    8.1 Linux for Japanese?
    8.2 Linux Failing?
    8.3 Linux Man Character
9. Linux Newsletter Subscription & Policy statement
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1. From the Editor: Mars Landing, Linux & NASA

No, Linux hasn't been on Mars, at least not yet.  

Linux has however been up in the space shuttle , and is being used 
by NASA in many other ways.  

Please see the following column, "Why Linux" for a Linux related 
topic that reading about the NASA Pathfinder mission brought to
mind..  You will also find more about Linux on the space shuttle 
under "Hot News"

Hope to meet you somewhere down the line. Enjoy!

Mark Bolzern, Editor 

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2. Why Linux:  A regular column giving various aspects of why Linux is 
                so valuable. We welcome reader submissions for this column.
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Lockups - Should you tolerate them?         Author: Mark Bolzern
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Something struck me as I was reading about the Pathfinder mission 
to Mars, in the July 6, 1997 issue of the Denver Post.
(URL http://www.denverpost.com) 

The Pathfinder team had a major scare when they found they could not 
properly communicate with the rover vehicle.  

It seems that a power reset solved the problem.  Had they not been 
able to get past this problem, the mission would have had to be 
considered a failure, despite their phenomenal accuracy in landing 
the Pathfinder craft.  

Near the end of the article there was a quote from one of the team 
named Wallace (no first name was given).  The quote went like this: 
"It is just like having your screen lock up on you when you are using 
Microsoft Word or something. You've got to hit the reset button."

Everyone who uses a PC can understand that analogy - but why?
Why is the PC lockup experience so universal? Why does the world 
accept, and even expect mediocrity from hardware and software?  
It's especially absurd when you consider that Unix and Linux systems, 
even running as servers with hundreds of simultaneous users, can run 
flawlessly for years, shutting down only for scheduled upgrades and 
power failures!  

If the Pathfinder mission (which used neither Linux nor Microsoft 
software) had been scrubbed, then it would have been a waste of many 
millions of dollars... but isn't your time worth something too?  

Why should you be willing to put up with lockups in word processing 
software, or in the operating environment underneath?  When you've 
put your time and effort into creating documents or files, isn't 
their loss as much a waste as an unresolvable lockup on Mars might 
have been?

This mission to Mars is very exciting, and you can look up additional 
information regarding Pathfinder and Rover at http://www.mars.ucar.edu

Lockup-free computing? It is not too much to expect! Linux CAN deliver.

Help us prove it by writing to wgsnews@wgs.com. Let us know what you 
use your Linux system for, and tell us how long it has been lockup-free!
No one under 3 months need apply.  We may use your stories in future 
issues of the Linux Newsletter.  For those who's stories we use, we 
offer a reward of $25 off your next purchase at the Linux Mall!

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3. Linux Mall New Products & Specials
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                            ** NEW **

No BS Guide to Linux                                     Item #: 00407 
List Price: $34.95              Linux Newsletter Special Price: $32.00

This book is for people who want to install and run Linux or Unix 
without getting bogged down in detail. If you're simply curious, looking 
for new job skills, or thinking about Linux as a low-cost platform for 
your own Internet server, this book is for you!  Assumes at least basic 
DOS knowledge.  
More information: /products/00407.html

                            ** NEW **

Linux on a Disk (LOAD) - 2.5 GB                          Item #: 00435 
List Price: $389.00            Linux Newsletter Special Price: $369.00

Linux on a Disk is a Fujitsu IDE hard drive pre-loaded with
Linux by Cosmos Engineering for installation in your existing 
PC system as a first or second hard drive.  This is probably 
the easiest way of all to bring Linux up on your system 
completely ready to run.

More information: /products/00435.html
Also available with a 1.28 GB IDE hard drive...
/products/00436.html
... or with a 4.4 GB SCSI hard drive.
/products/00437.html

                            ** NEW **

New User's Fast Start Bundle                             Item #: 00398 
List Price: $325.85            Linux Newsletter Special Price: $249.00

Linux means power. It's one of the finest operating systems in the world! 
But like any very powerful and flexible tool, it requires some time to 
learn. To get you off to a great start, the Linux Mall has created the 
New User's Fast Start Bundle with all of the latest power tools and 
documentation to get you on your way to becoming a Linux power user! 
Included is the popular Caldera OpenLinux Base 1.1, with the latest 
utilities and the powerful Star Office Suite. This bundle also includes 
Partition Magic and System Commander for easy hard drive partitioning 
and multiple OS management. And finally, we've included the bestselling 
introductory books and a subscription to the enjoyable Linux Journal.  
And all at a special, low price to make learning and enjoying Linux 
a must for anyone interested in performance computing. 
More information: /products/00398.html

                            ** NEW **

Quadratron Cliq office Suite                             Item #: 00337 
List Price: $99 per module      Linux Newsletter Special Price: $49.00

The Quadratron Cliq Suite has long been the premier Unix Office Suite
for character based applications.  Character based applications do not
require as much horsepower and tend to be faster than their GUI cousins. 
This is certainly true of the Quadratron Suite, which is perfect for 
people who use dumb terminals on central systems, or who work across 
slow communications links.  Companies upgrading from Xenix to Linux 
should be especially interested. You can download the files from the 
Linux Mall site, and try them for yourself!

More information: 
CliqWord /products/00337.html
CliqCalc /products/00338.html
CliqForm /products/00339.html
CliqAccessories /products/00340.html
CliqIt /products/00341.html

All Modules together available for Linux at $149 for one user!  
/products/00387.html

Special pricing is also available for Unlimited user Linux servers!

                            ** SPECIAL **

FlagShip Personal, Linux version 4.42 for Education      Item #: 00072 
List Price: $220.00                   Linux Newsletter Special: $99.00

If you attend a school of any type, or are a faculty member anywhere,
you can obtain the personal version of FlagShip 4.42 for Linux at this
super special price.  FlagShip is one of the most practical languages 
in existence for data oriented computing. With WebKit and SQLkit you 
can use it as one of the most effective software creation languages 
in existence. It is substantially faster and more powerful for CGI work 
than Perl is.  FlagShip is effectively a superset the CA/Clipper language 
for Unix & Linux. Clipper was originally a compiler for dBase III, but 
moved well beyond this to break ground in object oriented programming.  
A very large percentage of departmental business applications and 
commercial business programs have been written in Clipper over
the years.  FlagShip will allow you to take this software into the 
21st century and add full Internet abilities. FlagShip can still accept 
code and databases from older versions of dBase & Clipper, as well 
as Fox code.  Must provide proof of educational status to get this 
price.  More information: /products/00072.html

                            ** SPECIAL **

Eiffel Personal Use or Student version for Linux         Item #: 00367 
List Price: $295.00                   Linux Newsletter Special: $95.00

Eiffel is more than just a programming language.  It is a graphical
development environment, a design methodology, and an implementation 
programming tool all in one with a complete library of reusable objects.  
You can design and implement recursively in a way no other language 
or product methodology allows.  Eiffel is user extensible and is one 
of the best for doing very large projects.  It creates running code 
that is very fast and efficient.  This particular price is for students 
or individuals wanting to use or learn Eiffel for their own personal 
reasons, not to create commercial applications.  
More information: /products/00367.html
A full commercial applications creation product is also available.
More information: /products/00126.html

                            ** SPECIAL **

BRU 15.0 aka BRU 2000 Backup & Restore Utility           Item #: 00366 
List Price: $299.00                  Linux Newsletter Special: $269.00

BRU is from a company that has been in the reliable backup and restore 
business for over 11 years. BRU 15.0 is fully graphical with its new 
X11 interface and is totally year-2000 compliant in backups and restores.  
With a primary focus on data recovery and maximum reliability, BRU 
provides the best backup possible under Linux/UNIX. This version is 
completely network aware and capable.   
More information: /products/00366.html
A much lower cost personal version of BRU 2000 (without networking) 
is also available.
More information: /products/00349.html

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4. Hot News: A regular column providing the latest news of interest to 
              Linux Fans. We welcome reader submissions for this column.
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4.1 Linux goes up on its second Space Shuttle trip
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The space shuttle mission launched on July 1 carries a Debian GNU/Linux 
system. This is Debian's second space flight, a repeat of an earlier 
mission that returned to earth early due to fuel-cell problems on the 
shuttle. The Debian system will monitor a plant growth experiment in 
the Microgravity Science Lab, will perform process control, and will 
send video and telemetry to the ground.   
More info at http://www.debian.org/news.html#19970626a 

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4.2 FREE LINUX CDs, Caldera OpenLinux, Linux Pro by WGS & Red Hat Linux
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The Linux Mall is giving away Free CDs of your favorite Linux distributions.
Please see /FreeCD.html

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4.3 Version 4.0 of Midnight Commander is available.
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Midnight Commander is a very good, free file manager and visual shell for 
Unix, Windows 95/NT and OS/2. Version 4.0 is now available with many 
enhancements over previous versions.  Midnight Commander is useful to 
novice and guru alike.  It has a user friendly interface with windows, 
menus and popup dialogs.   http://mc.blackdown.org/mc/

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The Linux Mall Summer '97 Catalog is being printed. It contains pages 
and pages of product specials and our new series of Power Bundles which 
enable users to save even more.  If you want a copy of the new catalog, 
please email your full postal address to  mailto:catalog@LinuxMall.com, 
or better yet, order one online, absolutely free, at 
/products/00426.html.
We'll get one right out to you as soon as they arrive.  The online order 
system will list a shipping cost. Ignore it; shipping charges will apply 
*only* if you order other items too. 

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4.5 Develop once on Linux - Deploy for both Linux AND Microsoft! 
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> From: "Al Dev" <Al_Dev_at_houpgpo@candle.com>
> Porting Tool: GNU-WIN32 Version 18.1 Linux to Windows NT/95
>     
> GNU-WIN32 is a porting Tool for porting applications from Linux to 
> Windows NT and Windows 95. Porting applications from Linux to Windows
> NT/95 is now even easier. Use gnu-win32 as listed below to compile
> the Linux applications written in GNU gcc/g++ under Windows 95/NT. 
> This makes Linux even better as development platform. You write 
> applications under Linux and port very easily to Windows 95/NT, 
> without changing a single line of code. This way, Linux applications 
> can have much a larger user base.
>     
> Title : GNU-WIN32   Version : 18.1 B
> http://www.cygnus.com/misc/gnu-win32

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>Subject: ActiveX on Linux
>Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:30:07 -0500
>From: Fred Murphy <fmurphy@tech-x.com>
>Organization: Tech-X Consulting, Inc.
>
>Your mention of ActiveX on Linux in your last newsletter reminded me of 
>a short interview I read last year.  It was in the Nov. 18, 1996 issue
>of "Information Week."  In it, Stuart Johnston asked Jim Allchin,
>"You've demonstrated Distributed Component Object Model on Sun's Solaris
>using work done by Software AG.  Sun is also working on porting DCOM to
>other major Unix flavors.  What's next?"  
>
>Jim Allchin, Senior VP, Microsoft, responded, "This whole ActiveX
>Consortium, all the technology of DCOM, all of the Remote Procedure
>Calls, all of the ability to bind remote operations, is going to be
>available on basically every system imaginable.  We'll put out a
>reference port on Linux that people can move to anything they want, so
>we'll be giving out source code on it."
>
>While I don't think that Microsoft is afraid of Linux, this at least
>proves that they know what it is and that it's not going away.  Should
>this actually take place, it's a perfect opportunity for the Linux
>community to establish its excellence in implementing open standards,
>thereby prompting other major players, such as Sun and Netscape, to also
>use Linux as a reference platform.  But ... DANGER! DANGER! ... 
>Microsoft has yet to release anything "open", and has a history of
>using, then consuming, all talent that could become a threat to its
>monopoly.  We should therefore embrace any positive gestures by
>Microsoft toward Linux, but let's also remember their history and
>attempt to protect ourselves accordingly. If the risks can be reduced, I
>think that the potential rewards are immense. 
>
>For instance, if the flow of innovation goes from an Independent
>Consortium to Linux, then to Microsoft, Sun, Digital, etc... there will
>be lots of pressure on Sun to do the same with Java, and then on every
>company pushing an "open" technology - almost instantly removing many of
>the hurdles standing between Linux and widespread, corporate adoption.

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5. Useful tips:  A regular column featuring information that all Linux 
                 fans will want to know about.  We accept submissions 
                 for this column.
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5.1 Linux User Groups?  How do I start one in my area?
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>Subject: Linux Users Groups
>From: Oleg Dulin <dulino@polaris.clarkson.edu>
>
> I was just wondering what do you need to do to start a Linux users group
> ? I just read that WGS is willing to help Linux users group and I was
> thinking about starting a Clarkson University Linux Users Group over the
> summer. There are a lot of Linux machines at Clarkson, many students
> install Linux on their systems.

Find a place to meet, pick a subject that you or someone you know can 
speak on, and then announce it in the appropriate newsgroups or forums.  
Maybe sign up for SSC's GLUE project, http://www.ssc.com/glue/ and also 
see the Linux Mall User Group Program at 
/mallugs.html.

Typically you will have a few minutes of organizational announcements, 
an hour or so of presentations and then a Q&A; session.

You may need a librarian to check out donated items to members. You HAVE 
to have a newsletter (an editor) and a mailing list (electronic is fine). 
Meet at least monthly on a consistent day of the month (Example: Every 
second Tuesday or third Thursday) or a consistent day of the week (Example:
every Wednesday).  Schedule meetings a year in advance and always add 
another to the calendar for each that has gone by. Maintain a home page 
for the group, and find speakers to present at as many meetings
in advance as possible, at least 3 or so.  The CLUE newsletter can be
used as an example, and some older issues can be found at 
ftp://ftp.wgs.com/pub/clue/

> It needs to be organized, right ? So, I talked to the administration at
> the University and they are willing to help me with lecture halls,
> promoting, etc.

This is a great start, I suggest others try the same course of action 
with their local schools.  The goals of Linux and of schools are
very complementary, and it is usually easy to convince those who 
control scheduling of rooms (meeting places) that this is the case.

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5.2 The Linux Gazette, making Linux More fun
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>Subject: Linux Gazette # 19 - freely available WWW e-zine on Linux
>        Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:10:12 GMT
>        From: Amy Kukuk <amy@ssc.com>
>Organization: Specialized Systems Consultants, Inc. (SSC) / Linux Journal
>
>"Linux Gazette...Making Linux just a little more fun!"
>
>Linux Gazette is a freely available, WWW e-zine that includes short articles
>giving tips and tricks, ideas and suggestions for customizing and running
>Linux. It is a member of the Linux Documentation Project.
>
>Linux Gazette Issue #19, June 1997, is out and can be found at: 
>  http://www.ssc.com/lg/ 
>
>For download purposes, LG is available at:
>  ftp://ftp.ssc.com/pub/lg/lg_issue18.tar.gz
>  ftp://ftp.ssc.com/pub/lg/LinuxGazette_june97.tar.gz
>
>A list of mirror sites can be found at:
>  http://www.ssc.com/lg/mirrors.html

The Linux Gazette is a good publication, I have learned a lot from it
over the past couple of years.

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6. Linux Events:  Linux related events that Linux fans will want to 
                  know about.  We accept submissions for this column.
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6.1 Comdex/Fall, November 17-21, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
    http://www.Comdex.com

Preparations are being made by Linux International to have a Linux 
Pavilion at Fall Comdex again this year, plan to be there or be square!

More information to follow in subsequent Newsletters

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7. User Success Stories

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7.1 Major Hospital runs entirely on Linux
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>Subject: Linux success story: forwarded message from Neil Spencer-Jones
>Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 22:57:09 +0100
>From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
>
>This Linux success story came up recently in the UK Linux usenet
>groups, and I thought that you might be interested.  
>
>Cheers,
>Stephen.
>
>>Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.linux
>>From: neil@spence-n.demon.co.uk (Neil Spencer-Jones)
>>Subject: Re: UK Case Study: Running a hospital on Linux
>>Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:54:48 GMT
>>
>>>Neil Spencer-Jones wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> See
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.spence-n.demon.co.uk/wcnn.htm
>>>> 
>>>> for a case study about using Linux to run the main patient systems at
>>>> a Hospital in Merseyside.
>>>
>>>Wow! Lets see more like this. Linux saves the NHS a great wodge
>>>of cash! 
>>
>>I actually left the NHS organization in question some 8 months ago,
>>and the system is still running just fine. Interestingly I am now head
>>of Systems and Networks at the National Computer Centre and have been
>>trying to get the Sunday Times et al interested for some time

This is a very significant testimonial!

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7.2 Linux and FlagShip together create interactive databased Web Site
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>Subject: FlagShip
>From: Steve Thomas <"steve-thomas@worldnet.att.net>
>Organization: Crystal Clear P.C.
>
>>>Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 01:51:13 -0800
>>>From: Steve Thomas <steve-thomas@worldnet.att.net>
>>>
>>>Mark and Pat,
>>>
>>>> >Hey, crazy question,
>>>> >
>>>> >I just received the Linux Journal's "Buyers Guide" and under the
>>>> >category of Databases, FlagShip was NOT listed????  How come?
>>>>
>>>> Because FlagShip is an Applications Development Language first,
>>>> and database second.
>>>
>>>OK, (tail between legs)  The "listing" for Flagship is NOT within the
>>>contents of the  "Databases" but instead it is listed under the
>>>"Development" section on Page 35.
>>>
>>>Personally, I think that this is the right and wrong placement for the
>>>listing.
>>>
>>>
>>>Right, because....
>>>While Flagship does allow the "development" of new or enhancements to
>>>existing Clipper/xBase products, it *is* also a dbms system.  Correct me
>>>if I am wrong, but did they not also consider dBase-II (shudders) a DBMS
>>>system?
>>>Besides some "C" code, where else can you profile, create and install 1
>>>set of code that can be run under an interpreter (dBase), compile and
>>>run it under DOS, Windows *and* Unix?
>>>
>>>Wrong, because....
>>>Should not the Linux Journal have created a special category for "Swiss
>>>Army Knife/Must have software" ???
>>>Not to mention the ability to create interactive applications via the
>>>WEB???  Cheeesh!
>>>No, I will not even go into the Multi-platform capabilities.... You
>>>already know that....
>>>
>>>(yeah.... just another Clipper-Head... mouthing off....)
>>>
>>>>>But that also means that I will be showing off more of the WEBKIT based
>>>>>things all over the place!  I will be implementing some "nifty" little
>>>>>packages there, from user messaging (web based) to..... well y'll see ;)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tip, and thanks for the loyal support
>>>
>>>Me loyal?  Hey, when someone has a good product, sticks behind it and
>>>has a good staff like you have there...
>>>  What else is a mere systems/programmer/all around
>>>computer guy, supposed to do?
>>>(walks off muttering something about finding the listing in the wrong
>>>place)
>
>No problem,
>
>I am currently setting up my own ISP with multiple Linux-Pro servers and 
>other goodies. Yes, I am utilizing the power of Flagship.... maybe I 
>shouldn't go this far, but basically I am tired of the MULTIPLE MULTIPLE 
>utilities for adding/maintaining users and all.  When I get up to where I 
>want to be, I will drop y'all an email and let cha'all take a gander.
>
>Yes, I know that I "could" be utilizing UNIX based shell scripts for 
>many of the things I want to do and see, but hey... go ahead and tell a 
>"clipper head" to reinvent the wheel and he gives you a Lambourgini. 
>
>
>P.S.  The NEW domain/site is  http://www.ccpc.net 

It is always great to have people be successful & happy with the 
products sold at the Linux Mall, thanks for letting us know Steve!

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8. Reader Feedback

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8.1 Linux for Japanese?
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>Subject: linux is significant
>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 01:13:21 -0700
>From: Hitoshi Noguchi <akiraf@fat.coara.or.jp>
>
>I first heard of Linux only a few months ago.
>I did not know what it was and was very intrigued.
>Since then, this mysterious operating system began to appear 
>more and more often in the Web sites I was browsing.
>Last month the first Linux Magazine, a monthly, was published in
>Japan. Something is definitely going on.
>For a computer illiterate like me, it took a little while to 
>figure out that Linux was a variant of Unix and was difficult 
>to learn to use. But still, it was a serious consideration, if 
>only because I was getting quite sick of my Windows 95.
>A little more investigation however, revealed that Linux supports
>Japanese, my native language, very poorly. A Unix user suggested 
>that I buy Solaris instead because such commercial systems support 
>Japanese quite well. I still believe that Linux is a significant 
>alternative. But it will have to support other languages better.

There is a Linux user's group in Tokyo that might be able to help.
You can find them at http://www.twics.com/~tlug/   Also, some time back 
there was something known as "JE" or Japanese Extensions to Linux.  We 
are not sure of its current state.  But as with everything else in Linux, 
we invite you to get involved in whatever area you think needs improvement.
For most areas there are projects already underway, and it is simply a 
matter of finding and joining them or sometimes starting them! It is 
amazing how much you'll learn, and how much fulfillment this can bring.
At the following URL are howtos for a lot of languages.  Unfortunately 
Japanese is not among them (I thought that it did once exist) 
http://www.WGS.com/LDP/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX-3.html (our mirror of the LDP) 
Perhaps this pointer will help you get started doing for your country 
what others have done for theirs around the world!  Learn by doing! 

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8.2 Linux Failing?
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>A James Lewis wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been browsing various threads about the PLAN for Linux and
> how it's 'FAILING'....
> 
> I'd now like to add my thoughts.....
> 
> Lots of people have said that Linux can never be a desktop OS as it's
> too complex and we shouldn't make it less complex as the people who use
> it now like it that way.....
> 
> TRUE!!!!!
> 
> However, we don't have to make LINUX easier/cut down or insulting like 95
> gets...
> 
> We can make a configuration which is all of those things, and a window
> manager/WM config that does all those things....
> 
> We can have a nice file manager which says 'Are you really sure?' and
> allows you to configure basic stuff.....
> 
> THAT's ALL we need do... none of this doom'n gloom stuff with cut down
> versions...
> 
> Have you ever seen 95 without explorer running?
> 
> Hide the complexity sure, hell that's what MS does...... 95 calls 'net
> start' in DOS 7 mode before starting it's GUI for goodness sake... if
> thats not hidden complexity I don't know what is!  We would have a simple
> to use environment which was almost infinitely extendable... and a
> smooth upgrade path to SERVER grade configurations..

Right! power under the hood, but with comfortable seats, a nice 
instrument panel ....

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>Subject: Linux Man Advert Gimmick
>   From: bworth@lola.phy.queensu.ca (Steven Butterworth)
>
>Re: the ``Linux Man'' advertising mascot mentioned in Newsletter #6
>
>Please ditch Linux Man. It doesn't work. It looks (and feels) clownish
>and silly. Most of the art work on your site is quite professional
>looking and I am not particularly anxious to offend your graphics
>person/people. Sometimes things just don't work. This is one of them.
>
>Sorry to be so negative, but I do not think that I will be the only
>person with this reaction. It produces that discomforting "am I really
>a member of the same species?" feeling that one gets while watching
>1950s commercials for kitchen appliances and cleaning products.
>
>Otherwise, I think that your site is rather well laid out and attractive.

Your response seems to embody the general consensus.  The Linux Mall has 
therefore stopped work on "Linux Man" and we are focusing our energies 
elsewhere. Thanks to everyone for their valuable input.

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